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  • Levri
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    Yes, I assume that they are (also, the last 2 in the group of still-living Valdorians among Riley, King Janus, etc etc)

  • Silver
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    Old topic, I know, but here goes anyway. (This may not be anything new because it's part of the Memory Oracle. AND, it may be factually incorrect and just a misinterpretation on my part.) BUT. ... .... ..... Are A.C. and Olliver Crane Valdorians?

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  • ChristineMoon
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    There’s no way to learn a water based spell in the game, which is probably good for poor Roger.

    Are you talking about the girl with the flower basket in Chapter 3? There’s no way to buy a flower, but if you have a dispel ring, you’ll see that basket somewhere else. I’m dying to know what the connection is.

  • Guest
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    Is there a way for Ash to gain a water-based spell in the game, and also, are there any specific choices in order to get Ash to purchase the flower when he goes back into the past?

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  • Tony Zhang
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    Thanks for your reply! I have found the Old Photo before so that’s why I think that Ash might be Ignis’s sibling. And I also went to the library during the fire, the foam looks like that of a fire extinguisher.

  • ChristineMoon
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    Hi Tony! You have a lot of great stuff here. I’ll try to answer what I can...

    Originally posted by Tony Zhang View Post
    SPOILER ALERT (I don’t know how to create spoilers on my phone)
    To make a spoiler, you use [ spoiler ] (your text) [ / spoiler] but do not use spaces between the brackets.

    So my speculation is that Timecrest 3 will bring us back in time and connect with young Luthor Timecrest. If so, then Luthor would have been pretending not to know the blue messages. I still wonder who sent the red messages though. I thought it was Ignis two years ago.
    Timecrest 3 jumps back to when Luthor is 13.

    The red message has been one of the greatest mysteries. I’ve also considered Ignis, since they use the exact same words (no accidents, no chance meetings). If it isn’t him, it’s someone who can reach out to him as well. It definitely seems to reach out to people that have lost loved ones.

    Why Ash can learn Levitas/Gravitas and Incendiatas? Is it a hint that Ash might really be Ignis’s sibling? And who placed the timebomb in Nightshade forest? It’s not likely that Scarlet (bone-masked woman) just accidentally dug it out.
    Did you ever find the old photo in Wispy Brook?

    The bomb was a human artifact. I think she was searching for it, since human items can affect magic (try visiting the library during the chapter 9 guild fire).

    When Ash and Riley are waiting for Ezra, the Merchant says on the AMP Card that he “cannot believe the rumors that Princess Riley is dead”...
    Those quotes are auto-triggered by picking the Riley path instead of after she passes.

    I wonder how many races are there in Alyncia... The Timecrest Merchant is clearly not human by his appearance...
    I know there are at least 4. We have Humans/ Alyncians (identical), Bunarfs (Merchant), Crystallis, Tenerana. This thread, post #118.

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  • Tony Zhang
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    Hi there! I have went through Timecrest 1 & 2 multiple times about two years ago and I just had it back on my phone and I’m now at Chapter 8, the very night before departing with Riley/Roger and I came up with a wild idea.
    My idea is based on four things:
    1. Luthor once connected with a human through Ash’s watch
    2. In my opinion, Timecrest 3 is hard to start from the very end of Timecrest 2 (Ash went beyond the door then came back to connect with us? Not likely.)
    3. The blue sketched message probably came from Luthor (Some might disagree though)
    4. The name of Timecrest 3 is LUTHOR TIMECREST
    So my speculation is that Timecrest 3 will bring us back in time and connect with young Luthor Timecrest. If so, then Luthor would have been pretending not to know the blue messages. I still wonder who sent the red messages though. I thought it was Ignis two years ago.
    One more thing: if most mages can only learn one type of magic, then why Ash can learn Levitas/Gravitas and Incendiatas? Is it a hint that Ash might really be Ignis’s sibling? And who placed the timebomb in Nightshade forest? It’s not likely that Scarlet (bone-masked woman) just accidentally dug it out.

    Edit: More strange things are happening...
    When Ash and Riley are waiting for Ezra, the Merchant says on the AMP Card that he “cannot believe the rumors that Princess Riley is dead”, “my heart aches when I know my nose cannot smell Princess Riley again”, and “join me and remember Princess together”, etc., which means that at least there’re already rumors that Princess Riley is dead. Who spread the rumors? How the hell can the Merchant know Riley is dead when she’s actually with us?? Though I’m feeling so bad that Riley is going to be killed by Ezra very soon...
    Edit again: I wonder how many races are there in Alyncia... The Timecrest Merchant is clearly not human by his appearance, but what about A. C., Roger, Riley and Elise? They appears to be, at the very least, Homos Sapiens. Then what is the exact definition of “human” in Alyncia? People from the planet Earth?
    More Edit: New findings! If you keep waiting for Ezra after Riley is killed, you’ll find him in a trance with seven glyphs, similar to the Being of Light on Mount Asura. So maybe the Being of Light is Ezra?
    Last edited by Tony Zhang; 06-26-2019, 09:06 PM.

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  • Kataleara
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    So I was in my third run of Timecrest when I noticed something that made me wonder if restarting Timecrest itself, in a way,

    is equal to turning back time? Let me explain. So my second run I looked at the flower basket in Petora’s room, then later I

    saw the child Petora in the past. When I replayed the scene in chapter two where Ash and I snoop through her room, Ash had a

    vision of the little flower girl, though I can’t remember ever seeing it in previous runs before finding child Petora in the

    past. Another detail that makes me further believe replays are similar to turning back time, is because one of the very

    first things you can say to Ash is I know who you are. First time players would wonder why that is an option when they have

    no idea who Ash is. On the other hand, the prologue takes place at a point in time, where, having already played some, you

    know who Ash is, so I’m not sure if this theory holds any water. Why, if in deed replays are similar to turning back time,

    it would explain why certain items stay in your pouch, like the wand and Riley’s locket. However, you could have turned back

    time so far that Ash lost the amulet, so that Riley had to give it to him again. This is why he can’t remember a thing at

    the start of the story. But what do you guys think?

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  • GriffinEgg
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    Could the watch Ash is using to connect to us be an apple watch? Like a literal apple watch? The spell is drawn from apples... and Ash could see glyphs appearing on it in Timecrest 1, much like the messages we're seeing? Maybe Chronos was able to obtain an object from the human world. Which brings me to the question: if human relics are found in Alyncia, wouldn't it mean that we are the past (from the point of view of the story) and Ash is communicating with someone from the past? Or did humans live in in the land Alyncia was created on, and then get killed off by mages? I'm open to here people's theories- because, you know, theories lead to more theories!!!

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  • IrisNightfall
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    Thank you 🙂
    3 - 4 ghosts? I’ve gotta dig through more of the choices now. The only ones i’ve found so far are the girl in the orphanage and the guard’s friend (or was it his brother?....)

  • ChristineMoon
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    There are at least 3-4 ghosts that Elise has come across, but I have no reason to think that Helena is one of them. Depending on which ending you choose, you may understand why.

    That being said, Riley definitely had a closer relationship with both moms- she discusses Helena Timecrest taking her under her wing as well as visiting Adrianna Elden before bringing Ash there.

  • IrisNightfall
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    I haven’t found anything that could suggest Elise meeting Ash’s biological mother......
    When and Where could Elise have seen Helena Timecrest? Is Helena following Ash everywhere he goes? Does Helena trust Elise more than Riley?

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  • takemus
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    Thank you, and you’re right, ChristineMoon! I hadn’t considered that humans are also capable of casting magic. I didn’t think about it at all considering the confusion and skepticism over the player’s ability to turn back time with Ash.

    How exciting!

  • ChristineMoon
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    Hi takemus, and welcome to the forums! We love hearing theories here!!

    The theory would make sense, it both would explain why the man strangled Ash (seeing the child of the woman who potentially divorced him?), and why Ignis held such a longstanding grudge (if the acid burns aren’t enough).

    But I disagree with your weak point; if the time magic was passed through Helena, then Ignis and Scarlet would have it as well. So why not consider Julius? Humans can definitely do magic, as we saw with Marik. There are also scenes talking about human magic in Alyncia (the library in chapter 9 comes to mind), as well as more about the watch if you explore the right scenes.

    Hope to hear more of your theories!

  • takemus
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    Finally decided to join the forums! What other way to begin but to post a theory I just had?

    So I was replaying Timecrest after awhile of not, and decided to go with Roger instead of Riley in chapter 8 during my second playthrough of this replay. After the subsequent events, I couldn’t help but wonder...

    Spoiler:  
    What if Ignis is related to Ash?

    After getting healed by Ho-Ho in Aurumhalla, Ash decided that he would become the next Master of Fire to be the person Ignis used to be. Roger brought up the question of whether or not Ash had fire affinity, to which Ash said even if he didn’t, he would aim to be the next Master of Fire anyway.

    We learned that magic affinity runs through the family. So Crane has lightning affinity, Timecrest has time, Ignis has fire. This would mean that Ash should only have affinity with time magic.

    However, in chapter 10 of this route, you can pick up the Old Photo, which has Ignis, Scarlet, and a woman with Violet eyes. (I’m also basing this info off my memory and off other posts because I’m still on chapter 9.) Ash has a chance of getting strangled by the man because he has violet eyes, like the woman in the photo.

    There was a theory someone (can’t remember who to tag them at the moment, sorry) had that the woman in the photo is Helena Timecrest. If this theory is true, then Ignis and Scarlet might be related to Ash by blood. Or, they are just good friends with the Timecrests.

    Let’s suppose that Ignis and Scarlet are also Helena’s children. We know that Chronos is 29 and that Ash is 16. A 13 year age gap is certainly a lot of time for more children. Since we don’t know Ignis or Scarlet’s age, they might even be older than Chronos. Ignis called Ash a ‘kid’ when he was 8 and in the spider cave, which makes me think that Ignis has a few decades on Ash.

    If Ignis and Ash are half-siblings, then maybe Ash may also have fire affinity because of his relation to Ignis. Unfortunately, the one weak point of this theory is that Helena is the Alyncian, while Julius is human. The time magic would have to come from Helena then—unless Julius somehow has time magic, much like we, the player, do.

    Not exactly related to the Ignis is related to Ash theory, but if Ash succeeds in becoming the new Master of Fire, then we have another example of the Alyncian naming convention fitting. It was pointed out in the naming conventions thread that most of the Masters have names related to their title: Chronos with time, Ignis with fire, Indra Frost with water. Ash’s name is also related to fire, which sort of hints, to me, that there’s a possibility he will become the next Master of Fire. He would then continue the naming convention.


    Sorry for any typos! I typed this all on mobile. Hopefully what I typed made sense lol.

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